OWN VIDEOS?
>>Ben: YES.
>>Leo: WHAT'S YOUR SITE?
>>Ben: DRBENHARRIS.COM.
>>Leo: ARE YOU A PHYSICIAN?
>>Ben: NO I'M NOT. I, I DON'T WANT
TO SEE YOUR TONSILS. I -- [Leo laughing]
>>Leo: THEN I WON'T OPEN MY MOUTH.
>>Ben: I'M A DOCTOR OF METAPHYSICS AND
THIS IS ABOUT ADVANCED ASTROLOGY.
>>Leo: OH WOW.
>>Ben: AND REALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN THE WORLD TODAY, WHICH IS THE GOVERNMENT'S REALLY COMING TO THE END, TO THE BRICK WALL.
>>Leo: IS THAT WHAT THE, THE CHARTS SAY?
>>Ben: OH ABSOLUTELY, YEAH.
>>Leo: OH HOW FASCINATING. WELL LOOK
AT THIS --
>>Ben: I'VE BEEN AN ASTROLOGER FOR 40 YEARS HERE ON CABLE TV IN HOLLYWOOD.
>>Leo: OH REALLY?
>>Ben: AND I'LL TELL YOU NOW
THAT THE PARTY IS OVER. PEOPLE BETTER START HOLDING HANDS ACROSS THE PLANET,
PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE CRIMINALS HAVE TAKEN OVER THIS COUNTRY.
>>Leo: WELL I KIND OF AGREE. WE
SHOULD ALL START HOLDING HANDS. I WOULD
AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
>>Ben: ABSOLUTELY, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND
BE ONE, SOLID FORCE AND
SAY HEY, LOOK, WE'RE NOT GONNA LET A FEW CREEPS
RUN THE SHOW.
>>Leo: YEAH!
>>Ben: JUST LIKE DOWN AT G4. DON'T
LET THEM CREEPS RUN THE SHOW.
>>Leo: BEN YOU'VE GOT
A LOT OF ANGER INSIDE OF YOU BEN.
>>Ben: OH YEAH, WELL, I'M THE LAST
THING YOU NEED.
>>Leo: I WANT YOU TO BREATHE DEEP AND
ASK ME A COMPUTER QUESTION. [Breathing]
>>Ben: OKAY. HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE TWO PROBLEMS THAT I'VE BEEN COMING
UP AGAINST.
>>Leo: YES.
>>Ben: JUGGLING EXTENSIONS AND
COMPRESSION FOR VIDEO AND SOUND --
>>Leo: YEAH.
>>Ben: THAT CAN BE A REAL PROBLEM.
>>Leo: IT'S KOOKY.
>>Ben: AND THE SECOND PROBLEM IS
THAT WEB GALLERY FROM PHOTOSHOP I CAN'T GET
THAT THING TO DOWNLOAD. IT KEEPS COMING APART INTO ITS COMPONENTS.
>>Leo: THAT ONE, I DON'T
KNOW IF I'M GONNA HAVE TIME TO DO BOTH OF THOSE. SO LET'S
START WITH THE VIDEO COMPRESSION. YOU KNOW ALEX
LINDSAY IS HERE. WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE PHOTOSHOP GALLERY COMMAND AND
MAYBE WHY THERE'D BE SOME ISSUES. BUT FIRST LET'S START WITH, CAUSE THIS IS A
BIG TOPIC, THIS --
>>Ben: YES IT IS.
>>Leo: ISSUE ABOUT COMPRESSION.
>>Ben: AND IT'S, IT'S FRUSTRATING TOO.
>>Leo: YEAH. IT, IT IS A KIND OF A TOWER
OF BABEL ISN'T IT?
>>Ben: YEAH.
>>Leo: THERE ARE ALL
THESE DIFFERENT --
>>Ben: BOY THAT'S IT EXACTLY, YEAH.
>>Leo: YEAH, FORMATS. YOU'VE GOT,
BUT WELL FIRST OF ALL
YOU HAVE THE FILE FORMATS. YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT
THE WINDOWS MEDIA. YOU'VE GOT QUICK TIME
MOV. YOU'VE GOT REAL
AUDIO.
>>Ben: YEAH.
>>Leo: THOSE ARE JUST
FILE FORMATS. THEN WITHIN THAT YOU HAVE HOW
IT'S BEEN COMPRESSED AND THAT CAN BE, THERE,
THERE ARE DOZENS --
>>Ben: WELL, IT GETS BETTER. HOW
ABOUT IF YOU BUY PROGRAMS LIKE DAZZLE OR PINNACLE THAT HAVE GOT
THEIR OWN EXTENSIONS THAT NOBODY'S EVER HEARD OF?
>>Leo: RIGHT! IT'S INSANE. [Laughs]
>>Ben: YEAH.
>>Leo: BUT WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE WEB
YOU'RE LOOKING TO MAKE IT AS COMPATIBLE WITH THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE
POSSIBLE, AREN'T YOU? I MEAN THAT'S THE GOAL. YOU WANT THAT.
>>Ben: NO THAT, THAT WASN'T REALLY MY GOAL. MY GOAL WAS REALLY TO MAKE
IT REALLY CLEAR AND VISIBLE.
>>Leo: AH, SO OKAY, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE BEST CODEK IS FOR THE
BEST QUALITY FOR, FOR FILE SIZE.
>>Ben: WELL, NO MORESO HOW TO
JUGGLE THE CODEKS WHEN YOU'RE STARTING WITH ONE
CODEK AND MOVING TO ANOTHER.
>>Leo: WELL --
>>Ben: LIKE I CAN DO QUICK TIME NOW
FOR VIDEO.
>>Leo: WELL THAT'S WHY I THINK
ULTIMATELY WE GOT TO KIND OF WANT TO MOVE
TO ONE. YOU KNOW ALEX
WHO'S HERE, IS GOING TO BE TALKING TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PHOTOSHOP --
>>Leo: IS ALSO AN EXPERT ON VIDEO AND
OF COURSE WORKED IN FILM FOR YEARS AND
HE DOES ALL THE COMPRESSION NOW
FOR "THIS WORK IN TECH".
AND HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THIS. I THINK HE AND
I ARE BOTH IN AGREEMENT THAT APPLE'S NEW
H.264 FORMAT AND MPEG 4 ARE
GONNA BE KIND OF THE LEADING FORMS OF COMPRESSION GOING FORWARD. MPEG 4'S GONNA
BE USED ON HIGH DEFINITION DVDS. IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S, IT'S USED ON A LOT OF
PORTABLE DEVICES INCLUDING APPLES ON IPOD AND
THE PORTABLE PLAYSTATION. AND I, I THINK
H.264 IS GREAT FOR THE INTERNET AND CAN, AND
BY THE WAY IS GOOD ENOUGH TO GIVE YOU HIGH DEF 1080-P VIDEO AS WELL.
DO YOU AGREE ALEX? I MEAN DO YOU THINK
THAT'S THE WAY TO GO?
>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, I, I THINK THOSE ARE
THE TWO BEST FORMATS.
>>Alex Lindsay: AND MOST OF THE, I
KNOW THAT WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER I THINKS OPENS THE MP, THE MPEG 4 STUFF NOW.
>>Leo: YES. IT IS SOON GONNA BE OPENING H.264.
>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, CAUSE H., H.264 THE IMPORTANT THING - -
>>Alex Lindsay: IS THAT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY APPLE'S CODE, YOU KNOW.
>>Leo: NEITHER OF THESE ARE APPLE.
>>Alex Lindsay: THEY'RE, THEY'RE OPEN STANDARDS --
>>Leo: RIGHT.
>>Alex Lindsay: THAT APPLE HAPPENED TO, TO ADOPT FASTER THEN ANYONE ELSE.
>>Leo: RIGHT, RIGHT.
>>Alex Lindsay: BUT THEY, THEY REALLY ARE
SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ADOPTED IN OTHER PLACES. AND
THEY ARE BY FAR IN MY OPINION, THE TWO BEST
HIGHLY COMPRESSED FORMATS. I MEAN THERE'S LOTS OF FORMATS. [Both talking at
once]
>>Leo: THEY GIVE YOU SMALL, FILE
SIZE.
>>Alex Lindsay: RIGHT.
>>Leo: BUT GOOD QUALITY. ACTUALLY IF YOU GO TO MACBREAK.COM BEN
YOU CAN SEE WHAT ALEX
HAS DONE. IN FACT
I THINK A CERTAIN PERSON WE KNOW IS ON SOME OF THESE VIDEOS. UM AND
THESE ARE, THESE ARE
ALMOST EXPERIMENTAL MORE THEN ANYTHING ELSE JUST
TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH IT.
>>Alex Lindsay: WE'RE JUST GETTING
STARTED, SO YEAH, WE'RE JUST PLAYING WITH
WHAT, WITH WHAT WE CAN GET AWAY WITH.
>>Leo: BUT THIS VIDEO I'M GONNA SHOW
YOU RIGHT HERE I'M SURE IS -- [Both talking at once]
>>Ben: -- IS GREAT. THANKS FOR BEING THERE.
>>Leo: THIS, THIS IS COMPRESSED. NOW
LOOK HOW GOOD THIS LOOKS. THIS IS H.264 AND
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT, A FEW MEGABYTES A MINUTE, RIGHT?
>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, ABOUT A MEGABYTE A MINUTE.
>>Leo: A MEGABYTE A MINUTE?
>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH.
>>Leo: THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, IT'S --
>>Leo: I MEAN THAT'S CLOSE TO WHAT MP3 AUDIO IS --
>>Alex Lindsay: OFTEN TIMES YES. SO WE'RE REALLY CUTTING A LOT OF
CORNERS AND, AND
MAKING IT ALL YOU KNOW WORK.
>>Leo: THIS IS ALL, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THIS IS, THIS H.264 IS REALLY THE
FUTURE.
>>Ben: HOW DO YOU LIKE QUICK TIME FOR THE VIDS --
>>Leo: WELL QUICK TIME, NOW
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT
WAS PLAY, WAS CODEKS. NOW YOU HAVE A PLAYER AND
THAT WOULD BE QUICK TIME OR WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER OR REAL
PLAYER. I LIKE QUICK TIME A LOT. QUICK TIME MAKES H.264 BUT THAT'S A PLAYER. IT
CAN PLAY ALL SORTS OF OTHER CODEKS AND
MAKE ALL SORTS OF OTHER CODEKS. SO DON'T
CONFUSE THE TWO.
>>Leo: QUICK TIME IS NOT A FORMAT, PER
SAY. IT'S A --
>>Ben: OH, BUT YOU COULD CERTAINLY USE IT ON YOUR WEBSITE EASILY WITH
NO PROBLEM.
>>Leo: WELL I IN FACT
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS QUICK TIME RUNNING RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE THE ONLY PERSON,
THE ONLY PRODUCT RIGHT NOW AS WE DO THIS SHOW
THAT'S SUPPORTING H.264 IS QUICK TIME.
>>Leo: BUT THAT'S JUST A MATTER OF
TIME BEFORE THAT, CHANGES.
>>Alex Lindsay: ABSOLUTELY.
>>Leo: I THINK THE QUALITY ON THIS IS STUNNING FOR A MEGABYTE A
MINUTE. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING. NOW
WE'VE GOT XVID. WE'VE GOT
DIVX. WE'VE GOT ALL
THESE OTHER FORMATS AND I THINK THAT IN THE
LONG RUN HAVING SO MANY FORMATS IS
CONFUSING. WE HAVE THE SAME SITUATION IN AUDIO. BUT MP3, DESPITE NOT BEING THE
BEST BUT MP3 HAS REALLY STEPPED FORWARD AND
SAYS YOU KNOW THAT'S THE AUDIO FORMAT OF CHOICE. I THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE
THE SAME THING, MPEG 4 AND H.264, WHICH IS JUST
A VARIATION BY THE WAY ON MPEG 4 ARE OPEN
STANDARDS. THEY ARE THE FUTURE OF VIDEO AND
I THINK THAT THAT'S THE WAY TO GO FOR EVERYTHING. YOU GET
THE BEST QUALITY, LOWEST FILE SIZE. RIGHT NOW
IT'S PROBLEMATIC CAUSE NOT, WINDOWS USERS HAVE TO GET
QUICK TIME 7 TO SEE IT AND
THAT'S STILL IN BETA
AS WE SPEAK OR MAYBE IT'S NOW
IT'S OUT OF BETA. BUT --
>>Alex Lindsay: I THINK IT'S - -
>>Leo: JUST WENT OUT OF BETA.
>>Alex Lindsay: YEAH, I THINK IT --
>>Both: JUST OUT OF BETA.
>>Leo: YEAH.
>>Alex Lindsay: AND I THINK THAT
YOU KNOW QUICK TIME WE FIND --
>>Leo: I LOVE QUICK TIME.
>>Alex Lindsay: I, I THINK IT'S A BETTER, THE
GOOD THING ABOUT QUICK TIME IS YOU HAVE ALL
THESE CODEKS YOU CAN COMPRESS INTO.
>>Leo: YOU STILL HAVE CHOICES.
>>Alex Lindsay: EVERYTHING FROM THE SUPER HIGH END --
>>Leo: RIGHT.
>>Alex Lindsay: UNCOMPRESSED ALL
THE WAY INTO --
>>Leo: RIGHT.
>>Alex Lindsay: YOU KNOW AND
THERE'S LOTS AND LOTS OF ROOM
IN BETWEEN.
>>Leo: THE OTHER FORTUNATE --
>>Ben: WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THESE EYEBALL FILES, LIKE THE ONE
FROM DAZZLE, LIKE AN MCS FILE?
THERE'S NO NEED TO CONVERT THAT --
>>Leo: WELL THAT --
>>Ben: EXCEPT MAYBE BACK TO DIVX. I DON'T
--
>>Leo: YEAH. NO, THEY DO IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO USE THEIR SOFTWARE
STUDIO 8 TO MAKE THE, MAKE THE, MAKE THE CHANGE. THEY, THEY'RE LOCKING YOU INTO
THEIR SOFTWARE. STAY AWAY FROM PRODUCTS THAT REQUIRE YOU TO USE PROPRIETARY
CODEKS PERIOD.
>>Ben: AH, IT'S A MESS.
>>Leo: PERIOD.
>>Ben: BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
YOU'RE DOING.
>>Leo: YEAH.
>>Ben: AND ONCE YOU'RE IN THERE
THEN IT'S TOO LATE.
>>Leo: STAY AWAY FROM EM, AND, AND,
AND THAT'S JUST
A REASON NOT TO USE THAT PRODUCT IN MY OPINION.
>>Ben: YEAH, WELL I FOUND OUT THE
HARD WAY.
>>Leo: YEAH.
>>Ben: I THOUGHT IT WAS COMPLETE. BUT IT'S ONLY HALF THE PICTURE.
>>Leo: NOPE, YEAH, YOU USE AND
YOU'VE HEARD ME BEN ENOUGH NOW
TO KNOW, OPEN STANDARDS, OPEN STANDARDS. I SAY IT OVER AND
OVER AGAIN. YOU DON'T WANT ANY ONE
COMPANY TO CONTROL ANY OF THIS STUFF. WE GOT
TO RUN. WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME. WE'LL TALK
ABOUT THE GALLERY SUBJECT, THE PHOTOSHOP GALLERY A LITTLE BIT LATER ON THOUGH
BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD SUBJECT TOO. HOW WOULD
--
>>Ben: THE THING YOU WANT AT SIX IN THE MORNING.